THE ROGUE is Embargoed: Due to Explosive Content, No Galleys Sent
July 18, 2011
Crown Publishing, currently the strongest division of Random House, Inc., has made yet another decision with which I agree.
They have decided not to send out pre-publication galleys of THE ROGUE to review outlets and mass media.
They’ve printed only seventy-five galleys and are keeping them locked in a safe in their offices in New York.
I myself have received only one copy.
A very few magazine editors and executive producers of national TV shows will be shown a redacted version, but only after they sign stringent, legally binding, non-disclosure agreements.
Very seldom does a publisher decide to embargo a book in this fashion.
Crown has chosen to do so because THE ROGUE contains revelations about Sarah Palin that neither they nor I want to have leaked before the September 20 publication.
As interest builds, a lot of people in national media are clamoring for an advance look.
Crown has weighed the ups and downs of a total embargo and has decided that in this case–given that some of the content will make headlines as soon as it’s revealed–it’s the only way to go.
I agree completely.
There’s some stuff we just don’t want to see online a month before THE ROGUE reaches bookstores around the country.
My wife and editor, Nancy Doherty, has read the book (Nancy having helped enormously to make it better than it would have been without her.) My lawyer, Dennis Holahan, and my agent Dave Larabell, of the David Black Agency, have also read it. As have, of course, the chosen few at Crown Publishing who are responsible for the book’s successful publication.
Normally, an author wants to see his book disseminated as widely as possible before publication, to build interest.
But in this case, some of the content is simply too sensitive to risk premature disclosure.
I’ve given only one other writer an advance look. I chose her because I admire her and trust her and because she’s never had anything to do with Sarah Palin, so she read it with an outsider’s perspective.
First, she tweeted:
…just finished your book. Holy shit. Must collect thoughts & write longer email. Suffice to say haven’t stopped thinking about it.
I wrote her to say that I hoped she meant “Holy shit” in a good way.
She replied by email:
Yes that Holy Shit was a good one.
Great one in fact.
It was is so compelling- I just devoured it. Woke up thinking of it, went to bed thinking of it.
It makes everything clear about her…The deconstruction of her religious beliefs is terrifying and shocking. I had no idea there was a fringe element called dominionists, nor did I know about this business about demon-controlled cities, and the need to destroy them…It’s a very frightening mass delusion.
I love how you grounded the whole story with your own experiences in Alaska- past and present. It was the perfect refresher, in all the right spots, to the lightless persona of SP.
This is a real tour de force and I imagine will set off a lot of depth charges. I hope you are prepared for the onslaught from her camp.
You’ve done a great service, apart from writing a great biography.
If people wake up to the insidious nature of these fringe fundamentalists then maybe her power and those like her will start to dissipate.
And apart from all that, it was just a great read.
And so Crown and I move forward to Sept. 20. Without Crown’s approval, I can’t share any details about the shows I’ll be appearing on, but suffice it that I won’t be hard to find on either network or cable TV, nor on radio, nor in the press, nor at online sites via interviews in late September and October.
The people at Crown–including publisher Molly Stern, editorial director Charlie Conrad, senior executive director of publicity David Drake, publicity director Annsley Rosner, marketing director Patty Berg, associate director of online sales and marketing Jacob Bronstein (who, for you FATAL VISION fans, is the son of Dr. Merrill Bronstein, who treated Jeffrey MacDonald in the emergency room at Fort Bragg’s Womack Hospital on Feb. 17, 1970, and testified at MacDonald’s 1979 trial), and, far from least, Matthew Martin, vice president and associate general counsel, Random House–are by far the best I’ve ever worked with over my twelve-book, forty-plus year career as an author.
Together, we’ll bring you the truth about Sarah Palin.
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“Together, we’ll bring you the truth about Sarah Palin.” Or at least some of it. The Trig pregnancy is still in the air.
Yup. And if you can bring it out of the air with down to earth evidence, please let me know. My skepticism about Sarah’s story needs a leg or two to stand on, and online photos–where the truth is in the eye of the beholder–don’t suffice.
–Joe
Damn you Joe!! I will now go buy my Kindle from Amazon because I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WAIT for your book in the mail!!
Wow.
I can hardly wait for it to come out. I pre-ordered it for my Kindle too because I don’t think I can wait for it to be shipped to me.
This country will forever thank you. I’m thinking I need the Kindle issue and a good hard cover. Cannot help myself.
I hope she’s shaking in her boots…
This embargo is great news. It’s sure to strike fear in the Palin camp — you know that $arah and Todd will hate this. It gives them no lead time to respond. The book will come out and they will be pathetically flailing around trying to shut down the terrible publicity, unable to come up with any coherent PR response.
Can. Not. Wait.
Holy Shit is right. I.Cannot.Wait. Well done, sir, well done!
Joe,
You have tremendous support from your publishing company and I like everyone else will be waiting for the download on Kindle. I hope this turns out to be your very best book yet; content and sales.
I already have my kindle and have pre-ordered it awhile back. I just can’t wait for it to come out. Joe your a teaser. By the way I don’t know if I ever told you that I lived on Ft Bragg were the murder took place. Ten yrs after the house was still boarded up and they changed the street and all enlisted families live there now. I always saw a lot of traffic. I was sitting with a neighbor and she told me about that house. OMG I read the book. I never realized it. Excellent book
It’s not inconceivable that when SP said she’d announce her plans about running in late August or September, she was hoping that there would be leaks about your book beforehand, and she could parry them and then use the publicity to advance her position. With an embargo, she has to move before she knows what’s in your hand.
Game on.
Certainly not the Alaska of Coming into the Country and Going to Extremes. Well, on second thought SP is the epitome of extreme!
Like the other posters here, I’m not sure I can wait til Sept 20 to read “The Rogue”!!! It’s tooo far away. The release date is marked on my calendar. I must’ve read “Fatal Vision” six times over the years and thought of Colette and her girls so often. You treated them with such loving respect, and unveiled their killer with such finesse. I’m sure you bring the same amazing writing and research skills to this latest book of yours.
I’ll be wishing away the summer till I get my hands on your book. You’ve generated a lot of excitement regarding your book and I’m sure Sarah Palin is getting very anxious about it as well, but not in a good way. Can’t wait!!!
Does this mean that Sarah Palin might read a book?
The ‘ embargo ‘ sounds like a GREAT plan by your Publisher. It will create and drive such an intense curiosity and speculation right up to the day the book is released. People will be talking about it more…Guessing about the details, BUT still talking it up.
The fact that it will drive the ” Wacko from Wasilla ” Krazy right up to the book release… that’s a Bonus.
I’ll make a safe bet. If the Book stores are allowed to sell your book at Midnight of Sept 20th… There will be MORE people in line to buy your Book… than there were on line to see Palins movie premiere.
It’s a competition.
I can’t wait for it to be released.
I wish you well Mr. McGinniss.
You may not be at liberty to say but I hope you have taken proper precautions about your safety.
I thought it was a punkish move on your part to move next to the Palins when you wrote the book but when Governor Palin then insinuated that you were a pedophile that they needed to be exposed.
I wish you well sir.
Holy Guacamole!! I wish we didn’t have to wait 64 days for your book to be published. But who’s counting?
We’ll have to have a virtual countdown party as the release date gets closer.
C.O.N.G.R.A.T.U.L.A.T.I.O.N.S.
The suspense builds! Between your creds and the marketing decisions of your team, Joe, I think this could be even bigger than I originally thought. I think everybody is going to be talking about this book. The decision to keep it under wraps until 9/20 is brilliant.
Great marketing idea! Hopefully, it will prevent advance leaks which would give Palin a chance to refudiate what’s in the book.
“Together, we’ll bring you the truth about Sarah Palin.”
To Joe, Nancy, and your whole brilliant (the embargo) team, I say a huge “Mahalo!” And big congrats in advance for reaching #1 on the New York Times Best-Seller List! Sarah’s real “come to Jesus” moment.
I agree completely and sometimes shit really is holy. I am always disappointed when books are leaked ahead of time.
I hope your book gets people in this country to think more critically about what the media feeds them.
Forgot to add, I hope Sarah is shitting her drawers about this because you know she has read this.
Good! Great!! I can hardly wait. I’m so glad your publisher is doing it right.
Terrific marketing for what surely will be a great and widely talked about book.
Sounds like PalinWorld really is like a Jonestown – or even worse.
You can download most books to your computer through Amazon. Think of all the books you can buy with the money you save!
I hope your book does well joe. don’t think that my cynicism regarding the quitter reflects my feelings on your writing abilities. it doesn’t.
but the truth is, the quitter has a very small following. most americans, as shown in poll after poll, do not like her and do not think she is presidential material. so whythehell is she still around? because the media is waiting for a train wreck.
bailey’s book should have silenced the media on palin. her staff rigged online polls to make it look like she has more support than she does. she and her staff wrote letters to the editor in favor of her and signed “supporters” names to them. these things should have made the media wakethe-f up and stop giving her the time of day. but it didn’t. they still, day after day, shove her in our faces like she has more support than obama. it’s totally FAKE.
I hope that your book puts an end to all this, but given the media promotion of this lying psycho quitter I sadly think that we are going to continue to hear about her because the media will continue to provide a platform for her lunatic rantings. it’s like they ignore EVERYTHING, every element that proves she’s an unelectable psycho in order to sell their garbage.
will you be dismissed as bailey was dismissed?
I wonder if she will announce her candidacy before or after your book.
WoW~ Joe…I can not wait until your book is released…Really glad about no leaks..Quitter will not announce until after this book comes out…JMHO…
emersya,
I don’t think Bailey was “dismissed” but…he knew of all this shit ahead of time and waited until he was thrown under the bus to make money on it . He knew about Troopergate, that Toad was asking everyone to get info and make complaints, but yet he did nothing until the time came to make money.
I still haven’t finished his book.
It didn’t tell us, who have studied Palin anything we didn’t already know…well maybe confirmed about Tracks dad… ?
Can’t wait for Joes book, plan to be sitting in the sun with my dog and reading everyday!
No Palin2012!
Joe…did you find out about the “Wite out” from Going rogue? Dunn didn’t have it, someone found it? why else would she mention THAT?
Bwhahahahahaha Sarah will have Family issues! You know TriG who she never sees will “need” her…Kind of like her jury duty that was a photo op?
Joe, any interest in investigating Rev Wright after all this? The media epically failed in bringing THAT to light and the videos that were released were NOTHING.
Has it occured to anyone else here that she just might make the big announcement on the same day as publication? Sure wouldn’t put it past the bitch.
I would stand in line and buy it then. Am so waiting for the book to be released, but not patiently.
It’s interesting that $P has postponed her ‘announcing’ until late summer when The Rogue comes out.
She must have a clue about what is about to be exposed that will sink her little scam and is trying to raise as much personal PAC $$$ as she knows full well the gravy train is nearing the end of the line and she wouln’t have as much opportunity to fleece a political pac. I just hope the big news is more than her ties to Dominionism as that news is out on many blogs and is making little impact. I don’t think the average American sees the full enormity of how a full-out theocracy would impact their lives or the law of the land.
Will just have to sit back and be patient like everyone else. I presume $P will do her utmost to keep us entertained for the next couple months but I’m not sure my eyes/ears/stomach can take much more of her. Two more months of hatred accruing between the Dems/Repubs and I doubt there will ever be a healing between the two factions. Clever those Koch boys to drag out the time-tested ‘divide and conquer’ game plan. That way no one wins but them.
I just bought a kindle and already have it on order, as well as the analogue hard cover version (yes, I know it sounds odd, but some books are best read the old-fashioned way). I’ve been psyched to read your book ever since I heard you were in Alaska doing the legwork. What cinched it for me was how the subject of your book decided to portray her new neighbor on her facebook post and on TLC, as a perverted pedophile.
You conducted yourself with grace and dignity, even going out of your way to make sure no one invaded the subject of your book’s privacy, nor that of her family. And she kept the clip in anyway and stood by her lie. You have every right to rent any vacation home you want, even if the neighbors don’t like it.
Joe, I panicked when I read the post’s title, then realized it makes perfect sense, and is a brilliant move! It boosts interest, while allowing time for breaking current events to play out, the amateur film is headed for the dollar store, right next to the subject’s books, that of her Daughter, and Metamucil.
I wish you, your family, your publishers, and your book nothing but the best!
It’s funny you say you haven’t finished the Baily book. I also put Baily’s book down about half way in and haven’t felt compelled to pick it up again. I don’t get around to reading many books but I read Dunn’s book and the books by the women who escaped the FLDS and I couldn’t put them down, reading them through the night.
Joe,
Great news about the book !
My hope is that even if you do not take on babygate directly, the cummulative effect will work to our advantage. The public has some inkling of how idiotic and mean she can be. Other books have come out to reinforce that. And now with your book really stirring the pot, things like babygate that once may have seemed just unbelievable won’t anymore. And our babygate communications may be taken more seriously…..
Not to mention that the Dominionist delusions of all the other RWNJ candidates should become more clear as well. Thank you for all your hard work on this book.
Will also pre-order mine for Kindle and can’t wait for this to come out! I hope it makes your summer of looking at Todd’s lame wall worthwhile. And I hope most devoutly that this book makes people realize how crazy and dangerous Sarah Palin is.
I’m surprised, though, that the book is embargoed– I thought all REAL authors just emailed whole copies of their book to as many people as possible! 🙂
Joe,
Love that you are ratcheting things tight. Two months to go. If the tension and stress remain high perhaps the crazy one will take to her room with nacho supremes and HGTV.
Do you know that the owner of that house sought out Joe to offer to rent to him? As with most who know the Palins well, they do not like them.
I did finish Dunn’s book, but is was a bit of a let down…. although his first book very good! Thought he did a great job.
Well of course online photos don’t suffice for people who can look at a photo that was taken by a ADN photographer and printed in the paper. A photo that showed a nice slim Sarah on March 14, 2008.
Then of course we have the photo that was taken 45 days later by Dan Carpenter during the live interview with Andrea Gusty.on April 13, 2008. A photo that Gusty herself has said was not photoshopped. This is what she told FactCheck.org………………We spoke with Gusty, who sent us this copy of the photo, and she told us she was surprised the photo had made it onto the Internet. “I was under the impression that nobody had it except for me.” When we asked her if the photo circulating online had been altered in any way, she said there was “no photoshopping,” and that the photo was taken during a live interview with Palin in mid-April 2008, at the end of the state Legislature’s regular session.
It takes longer than 45 days for a pregnant belly to expand that much.
But online photos taken by the ADN and a KTUU photographer won’t suffice.
@sharon also too
She might…but who will back her? Kockoctopus is backing Michelle and Gop will not back HER!
She has shown she has no following.
None. The spam eaters at c4p no matter how they freep polls don’t represent the real wold.
She is damaged goods. She is mentally unstable.
She is prob involved in many grifter & lawbreaking situations.
I am also concerned for your safety. Security should be foremost in your mind. I extend good wishes to you and PLEASE avoid Leno’s show if at all possible. ggrrrrrrrrr
Joe Congratulations.
♠ Iam looking forward to reading your new book.
My knowledge about the New Apostolic Reformation is very limited
I’ve been on Houston radio a few times and have been told off air that Perry has a lot of problems that the rest of the country doesn’t know about as of yet and I can believe that. But what we do know this side of his state is that he loves his extreme religious right leaders. He’s hosting a prayer rally in Houston called The Response which has its fair share of super Evangelical fringers
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-perry-teams-afa-call-prayer-rally
Right Wing Watch puts together a fact sheet on some of these fringers:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fact-sheet-gov-rick-perry%E2%80%99s-extremist-allies
The American Family Association
The AFA today is led by Tim Wildmon, Don’s son, and its chief spokesperson is Bryan Fischer, the Director of Issues Analysis for Government and Public Policy and host of its flagship radio show Focal Point.
Fischer routinely expresses support for some of the most bigoted and shocking ideas found in the Religious Right today. He has:
* held gays responsible for the Holocaust
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bachmann%E2%80%99s-favorite-ministry-joins-fischer-link-gays-holocaust
and likened them to domestic terrorists
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-inescapable-conclusion-gay-sex-form-domestic-terrorism
and Nazis
http://www.youtube.com/user/rwwblog#p/u/33/ysR0Tdz5SaM
who are intent on committing “virtual genocide”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fishcer-gay-activists-will-commit-virtual-genocide-against-christian-soldiers
against the military, and asserts that “homosexuals should be disqualified from public office”;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-prop-8-ruling-proof-homosexuals-should-be-disqualified-public-office
* said “we have feminized the Medal of Honor”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/vander-plaats-bryan-fisher-and-afa-do-not-speak-me
by awarding it to a soldier who saved his fellow combatants rather than killing enemies;
* demanded all immigrants “convert to Christianity” and renounce their religions;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-all-immigrants-must-convert-christianity
* asserted that Muslims have “no fundamental First Amendment claims”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-no-first-amendment-rights-muslims
and should be banned from building mosques
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-again-calls-ban-muslim-immigration-and-mosques
and deported from the US,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/afas-fischer-calls-end-muslim-immigration-and-deportation-all-muslims-us
adding that Muslims are inherently stupid as a result of inbreeding;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-centuries-inbreeding-reason-muslims-are-stupid
* claimed African American women “rut like rabbits”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-welfare-just-gives-money-people-who-rut-rabbits
due to welfare and that Native Americans are “morally disqualified”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-native-americans-need-leave-reservation-convert-christianity-and-become-full-fledged
from living in America because they didn’t convert to Christianity and were consequently cursed by God with alcoholism and poverty.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-native-americans-are-mired-poverty-and-alcoholism-because-they-refuse-accept-christi
Then there’s the IHOP group and no it doesn’t involve pancakes:
The Response’s leadership team
http://theresponseusa.com/leadership.php
includes five staff members of the International House of Prayer (IHOP), a large, highly political Pentecostal organization built on preparing participants for the return of Jesus Christ.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ihop-call-247
IHOP is closely associated
http://www.louengle.com/
with Lou Engle, a Religious Right leader whose anti-gay, anti-choice extremism hasn’t stopped him from hobnobbing with Republican leaders including
Newt Gingrich,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/flashback-lou-engle-prays-over-newt-gingrich
Michele Bachmann
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/awakening-2011-another-chance-gop-political-leaders-bond-religious-right-activists
and Mike Huckabee.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/huckabee-puts-out-call-call
Engle is the founder of The Call, day-long rallies against abortion rights and gay marriage, which Engle says are meant to break Satan’s control
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/engle-using-call-break-satans-control-over-our-government
Call event featured “prophet” Cindy Jacobs calling
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jacobs-birds-are-dying-because-dadt-repeal
for repentance for the “girl-on-girl kissing” of Britney Spears and Madonna. Perry’s The Response event is clearly built upon Engle’s “The Call” model. Engle has a long history of pushing extreme right-wing views and advocating for a conservative theocracy in America.
Engle:
* is a proponent of “Seven Mountains” dominionism,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/newt-gingrich-and-dominionists
a movement
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/david-barton-advocates-seven-mountains-dominionism
that seeks to have Christians take control of all aspects of American life, including government, business, entertainment and the media;supports the criminalization of homosexuality;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/lou-engle-supports-criminalization-homosexuality
* claimed that universities with LGBT anti-discrimination measures are teaching students to “accept the mark of the beast”;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/engle-universities-are-teaching-students-accept-mark-beast
* is waging a “spiritual war” on the Supreme Court to get abortion outlawed in America;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/lou-engles-war-supreme-court
* prays that Ellen Degeneres will be “converted” from homosexuality.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/lou-engle-prays-ellen-degeneres-will-be-converted
The International House of Prayer, incidentally, remains locked in a copyright infringement lawsuit with the International House of Pancakes.
And then there’s the odious Jim Garlow:
Most importantly, Garlow is a close spiritual adviser to presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and leads Gingrich’s Renewing American Leadership (ReAL).
http://www.torenewamerica.com/about-us
Garlow is a principal advocate of Seven Mountains Dominionism,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/garlow-your-land-has-cancer
and wants to “bring armies of people” to bring Religious Right leaders into public office and defeat their political opponents.
Garlow has a long record of extreme rhetoric. He:
* when Prop 8 passed in California, claimed that African Americans “saved us from the bondage and enslavement that would come upon us if gay marriage actually passed in a state” and alleged marriage equality supporters are going to “totally destroy the definition of the family”;
* likened homosexuality to bestiality, saying that if marriage equality is upheld “the next court case could conceivably say that if three people wanted to marry or four people or five people or if someone wanted to marry their dog or their horse”;
* compared gay adoption to children losing their parents in the September 11th attacks and said that supporters of gay rights are “almost like an Antichrist spirit”;
* told conservative activists that “your land has cancer” and believes that the “lethal ideological ‘radiation’” of progressives “is killing our nation” and “poisoning us and our children”;
* argued that legal abortion is responsible for unemployment.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pray-and-act-dirty-tricks-stonewall
So there you have some of the basic haters that are part of Rick Perry’s minions. Now he has Rush Limbaugh on his tail because “He Supports “In-State Tuition For The Children Of Illegal Immigrants” I’ve written about Texas passing a Dream Act type legislation that has been very successful so since it works and helps immigrants, Limbaugh most be opposed.
In 2001, Gov. Rick Perry signed House Bill 1403 into law after the bill passed the Senate with zero no votes. House Bill 1403 by former Rep. Rick Noriega, D-Houston, now called the Texas Dream Act,
http://topics.chron.com/topics/DREAM_Act
has proven to be an incredibly successful law providing access to higher education
http://topics.chron.com/topics/Higher_education
for students who may otherwise be unable to afford the increasing cost of attending college. Texas law currently provides that all students, regardless of immigration status, may qualify for in-state tuition at Texas colleges or universities provided they have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation and resided in Texas the year prior to their enrollment in higher education.
http://topics.chron.com/topics/High_school
The Texas Dream Act thus recognizes that immigrant students who have been educated in our Texas public schools have strong family, community and economic ties to the U.S.
http://topics.chron.com/topics/United_States
The state then follows through on the investment taxpayers have made in their education by allowing them to pay the same tuition rate as other Texans who meet the residency timeline requirements. These students have been admitted to colleges and universities based on their merit and despite the many obstacles with which they are confronted — a principle every Texan can appreciate. The law is both successful and popular because it reduces dropouts, encourages access to college and comes at little expense to the state.
This type of legislation should be celebrated, but since Limbaugh admits that he’s now “center of the universe for the RNC, the nativists are running the GOP so it’s a dark stain for anyone wanting the GOP nomination.
Palin has NO Fear she has Prayer Warriors, aka the NRA, John Birchers, Dominionists and the Aryan Nation..oh and God . The minions will raise there armies to fight the demons , who dare to attack their Chosen one. Joe, hope you hire extra security. Also, hope your book really reveals something new.
The big problem with the Kindle is that it is proprietary. The Nook and the tablets are not. You can get tons of free ebooks for them from a variety of places. I know Amazon has some free stuff, but nothing like what is available otherwise.
Are you insane? Rev. Wright is not trying to run policy in our country. He can say whatever he wants.
Keep trying, kid; you’ll get it right some day.
I love Joe and would buy his book just because he is…Joe. But, I am really anticipating the release of the book and all of the new revelations about this fake media created woman.
Who knew that it would be possible to be on a “blog” with a famous very well respected author 20 years ago when I first read Fatal Vision. A man that takes the time from what I am sure is a very busy schedule to give personal responses to us. Thank you Joe.
Hope your book is not only a success, but gets people interested in reading again. As in serious books.
Is there anything in the book about ALEC? I am reading some things now that are very scary…they want to take over the country, and most people are clueless.
Thanks for the update, Joe. However, I’m like a little girl waiting for Christmas as I wait now for your book to come out. It sounds as if Palin is afraid to announce anything before the book comes out. Also, if she announces now and your book is released, it will send negative publicity soaring on her as it definitely won’t be ignored by the media as previous books about Palin were.
Keep safe!
Joe
Congratulations.
♠ Iam looking forward to reading your new book.
FYI: (please excuse the length)
The following contains links to a wealth of information about the teachings and goals of the New Apostolic Reformation, Seven Mountain Dominionism. It is alarming that two of the contenders in the 2012 presidential elections: Michele Bachmann & Newt Gingrich (or five if you include potential wannabees: Sarah Palin, who wasn’t mentioned, Mike Huckabee and Rick Perry) are either devout followers or are closely associated with dominionist advocacy groups.
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Bachmann:
http://crooksandliars.com/…
she (and more importantly her political mentors in the national religious right) seek to transform the basis of American government and legal system.
In part: she would like to make the Bible (as understood by conservative evangelical leaders) the basis of American law and government and culture. I feel confident saying that even though she has never admitted to that publicly. I feel confident saying that because that was the basis of her legal education at Oral Roberts University after 1979, the basis of her tenure as an assistant to Professor John Eidsmoe (who regularly publishes pieces in a leading John Birch Society publication), and her political rhetoric (which includes paranoid political claims, prophetic visions, and claims of direct instruction on political matters from God.)
In such a society (re-oriented to incorporate sectarian religious doctrine as a basis of American public policy and law) conservative evangelical leaders would have a kind of unofficial policy making status as authoritative interpreters of the meaning of Christian scripture.
That’s radical.
by Bill Prendergast
http://www.dailykos.com/user/uid:117715
Co-author of the first political biography of Michele Bachmann: Michele Bachmann’s America
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“I’ve been on Houston radio a few times and have been told off air that Perry has a lot of problems that the rest of the country doesn’t know about as of yet and I can believe that. But what we do know this side of his state is that he loves his extreme religious right leaders. He’s hosting a prayer rally in Houston called The Response which has its fair share of super Evangelical fringers:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-perry-teams-afa-call-prayer-rally
Right Wing Watch puts together a fact sheet on some of these fringers:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fact-sheet-gov-rick-perry%E2%80%99s-extremist-allies
The American Family Association:
The AFA today is led by Tim Wildmon, Don’s son, and its chief spokesperson is Bryan Fischer, the Director of Issues Analysis for Government and Public Policy and host of its flagship radio show Focal Point.
Fischer routinely expresses support for some of the most bigoted and shocking ideas found in the Religious Right today. He has:
* held gays responsible for the Holocaust
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bachmann%E2%80%99s-favorite-ministry-joins-fischer-link-gays-holocaust
and likened them to domestic terrorists
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-inescapable-conclusion-gay-sex-form-domestic-terrorism
and Nazis
http://www.youtube.com/user/rwwblog#p/u/33/ysR0Tdz5SaM
who are intent on committing “virtual genocide”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fishcer-gay-activists-will-commit-virtual-genocide-against-christian-soldiers
against the military, and asserts that “homosexuals should be disqualified from public office”;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-prop-8-ruling-proof-homosexuals-should-be-disqualified-public-office
* said “we have feminized the Medal of Honor”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/vander-plaats-bryan-fisher-and-afa-do-not-speak-me
by awarding it to a soldier who saved his fellow combatants rather than killing enemies;
* demanded all immigrants “convert to Christianity” and renounce their religions;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-all-immigrants-must-convert-christianity
* asserted that Muslims have “no fundamental First Amendment claims”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-no-first-amendment-rights-muslims
and should be banned from building mosques
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-again-calls-ban-muslim-immigration-and-mosques
and deported from the US,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/afas-fischer-calls-end-muslim-immigration-and-deportation-all-muslims-us
adding that Muslims are inherently stupid as a result of inbreeding;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-centuries-inbreeding-reason-muslims-are-stupid
* claimed African American women “rut like rabbits”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-welfare-just-gives-money-people-who-rut-rabbits
due to welfare and that Native Americans are “morally disqualified”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-native-americans-need-leave-reservation-convert-christianity-and-become-full-fledged
from living in America because they didn’t convert to Christianity and were consequently cursed by God with alcoholism and poverty.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-native-americans-are-mired-poverty-and-alcoholism-because-they-refuse-accept-christi
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The Response’s leadership team
http://theresponseusa.com/leadership.php
includes five staff members of the International House of Prayer (IHOP), a large, highly political Pentecostal organization built on preparing participants for the return of Jesus Christ.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ihop-call-247
IHOP is closely associated
http://www.louengle.com/
with Lou Engle, a Religious Right leader whose anti-gay, anti-choice extremism hasn’t stopped him from hobnobbing with Republican leaders including:
Newt Gingrich,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/flashback-lou-engle-prays-over-newt-gingrich
Michele Bachmann
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/awakening-2011-another-chance-gop-political-leaders-bond-religious-right-activists
and Mike Huckabee.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/huckabee-puts-out-call-call
Engle is the founder of The Call, day-long rallies against abortion rights and gay marriage, which Engle says are meant to break Satan’s control
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/engle-using-call-break-satans-control-over-our-government
Call event featured “prophet” Cindy Jacobs calling
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jacobs-birds-are-dying-because-dadt-repeal
for repentance for the “girl-on-girl kissing” of Britney Spears and Madonna.
Perry’s The Response event is clearly built upon Engle’s “The Call” model. Engle has a long history of pushing extreme right-wing views and advocating for a conservative theocracy in America.
Engle:
* is a proponent of “Seven Mountains” dominionism,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/newt-gingrich-and-dominionists
a movement,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/david-barton-advocates-seven-mountains-dominionism
that seeks to have Christians take control of all aspects of American life, including government, business, entertainment and the media;supports the criminalization of homosexuality;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/lou-engle-supports-criminalization-homosexuality
* claimed that universities with LGBT anti-discrimination measures are teaching students to “accept the mark of the beast”;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/engle-universities-are-teaching-students-accept-mark-beast
* is waging a “spiritual war” on the Supreme Court to get abortion outlawed in America;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/lou-engles-war-supreme-court
* prays that Ellen Degeneres will be “converted” from homosexuality.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/lou-engle-prays-ellen-degeneres-will-be-converted
The International House of Prayer, incidentally, remains locked in a copyright infringement lawsuit with the International House of Pancakes.
And then there’s the odious Jim Garlow:
Most importantly, Garlow is a close spiritual adviser to presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and leads Gingrich’s Renewing American Leadership (ReAL).
http://www.torenewamerica.com/about-us
Garlow is a principal advocate of Seven Mountains Dominionism,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/garlow-your-land-has-cancer
and wants to “bring armies of people” to bring Religious Right leaders into public office and defeat their political opponents.
Garlow has a long record of extreme rhetoric. He:
* when Prop 8 passed in California, claimed that African Americans “saved us from the bondage and enslavement
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/garlow-african-americans-have-saved-us-bondage-and-enslavement-gay-marriage
that would come upon us if gay marriage actually passed in a state” and alleged marriage equality supporters are going to “totally destroy the definition of the family”;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/religious-right-dream-team-joins-dobson-discussion-marriage
* likened homosexuality to bestiality,
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/prop-8-engle-calls-it-end-democracy-while-garlow-warns-bestiality
saying that if marriage equality is upheld “the next court case could conceivably say that if three people wanted to marry or four people or five people or if someone wanted to marry their dog or their horse”;
* compared gay adoption to children losing their parents in the September 11th attacks
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/04/236523/speaker-at-faith-and-freedom-likens-gay-adoption-to-children-losing-parents-on-911/
and said that supporters of gay rights are “almost like an Antichrist spirit”;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/garlow-and-staver-gay-marriage-fight-against-antichrist-spirit
* told conservative activists that “your land has cancer”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/garlow-your-land-has-cancer
and believes that the “lethal ideological ‘radiation’” of progressives “is killing our nation” and “poisoning us and our children”;
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/garlow-lefts-ideological-radiation-poisoning-america
* argued that legal abortion is responsible for unemployment.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pray-and-act-dirty-tricks-stonewall
So there you have some of the basic haters that are part of Rick Perry’s minions.
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2008 – DailyKos Diary – Seven Mountains and the Joels Army Plan for Takeover
http://www.dailykos.com/…
Seven Mountains of Culture Page – Secular News Daily
http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/…
That was a copy & past … sorry for the length just thought you might want to read the wealth of information available.
I hope that this book will begin the national conversation about fundamental religion of all stripes. This poison has been gaining ground for the last few decades without being questioned or examined in the light of day. If Sarah Palin was the force needed to get this story out in the open, then she has, inadvertently, done this country a favor. Interesting, though, that she made the national spotlight without any one having a clue as to the underlying force driving her. It took an investigative journalist and writer with integrity to undercover it.
Demon cities? Now there is a puzzle piece. Sarah was always going around to rural areas stating that this was the real America. Even Colin Powell was annoyed by this and declared that Brooklyn was every bit as American as anywhere else. New York must be the #1 demon city. Funny, because Al Qaeda also thinks of New York as the #1 demon city.
Summer is already flying by; it will be 9/20/11 before you know it. This should be good.
The 64 million dollar question, is of course, what Sarah has up her sleeve to distract Americans from your book. She is very skillful in distraction (look, there’s a pig flying outside of the window). I am convinced her bus tour was to absorb some of the impact of Frank Bailey’s book. And it worked. Perhaps Sarah will declare for President on 9/20/11. This is going to get interesting.
Ypur kidding. You have to have a heart first. To her any attention is good attention. Good or bad it’s all the attention. Me, me, me.
Mr. McGinniss,
I realize you said that you are not at liberty to say where you will submit to interviews in promoting The Rouge. However I am wondering, would you be willing to appear on Fox News if they were willing to have you? You being interviewed by Bill O’Reilly would me must see TV for me.
I don’t think Sarah will be affected by Joe’s book herself. She will just continue on with her plan of only talking to those people who will not demand answers and will allow her to spout her meme that everyone who criticizes her is just mean and jealous. Why should she start dealing with the real world now?
I don’t think she’ll run. Her excuses are lame: “if the family says ‘don’t do this’.” Such a tight-knit, loving family and there has been NO discussion about a presidential run in the last 3 years? Really? Everyone’s avoided this topic like it was incest for three years?
She knows, and she’s not running. The lame bus tour showed how inept she is at anything but garnering attention.
I just can’t seem to be able to do the kindle thing. I want a hard back book, so I can remove the dust cover, read it, replace the cover back on, an put it on my shelves. I don’t even buy paperbacks.
Which brings me to ask a question Mr. McGinniss is you book hardback, I sure hope so?
Readers should choose whatever eReader meets their needs. There are as tons of free books available for the Kindle, from Amazon as well as from websites which provide public domain books in all popular formats, and there is free software to convert other formats into the Kindle format.
Joe, I wish you wouldn’t sneer at something being “online” as though that makes it tainted.
The most completely-flat-bellied photo of Sarah is indeed “online”, on the website of the Associated Press! A perfectly traditional journalistic outfit…
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0fcQ5EM7gafd9
There is no one in the world who could state with a straight face that that woman looks seven months pregnant. The picture doesn’t even begin to supply enough doubt for there to be a controversy over it.
http://litbrit.blogspot.com/2010/07/photo-forensics-and-sarah-palins.html
I’m sure the AP would provide you with a high-resolution paper print of that image, for a fee.
Then it wouldn’t be “online”, and you could consider it.
You could have contacted the photographer, Michael Dinneen, who undoubtedly has loads of unpublished images from that shoot.
I’m really curious as to what would constitute proof, if this photo does not. Documents can be falsified and witnesses can deceive, but this photo is a real record. It’s physically impossible for a woman to look like this and then have a basketball-sized stomach one month later. QED, Sarah faked her pregnancy.
I am Kenneth Gladney. You are Kenneth Gladney. We are all Kenneth Gladney, “Brian.”
I also didn’t finish Bailey’s book. I devoured Dunn’s book (he’s doing a book signing in my town this week! yay!) but Bailey’s had a tone I didn’t like. I have pre-ordered Joe’s book.
Hey Joe, regarding that there personal security issue? I stumbled across this little YouTube video last night, Arizona’s Organize4Palin “Welcome to Arizona” for Queen Esther aka Quitler and frankly, seeing all the Love in it makes me glad you didn’t make the trip to Phoenix last week. Seriously.
Eyes up and stay strong, friend.
That is very strange, that she would tell the whole wite-out story at all. Why not just say it was a miscarriage? The only explanation is that she fears someone knows the truth and might tell.
You mean Rev. Wright:
In 1961 Wright left college and joined the United States Marine Corps and became part of the 2nd Marine Division attaining the rank of private first class. In 1963, after two years of service, Wright joined the United States Navy and entered the Corpsman School at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center.[12][13] Wright was then trained as a cardiopulmonary technician at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. Wright was assigned as part of the medical team charged with care of President Lyndon B. Johnson (see photo of Wright caring for Johnson after his 1966 surgery). Before leaving the position in 1967, the White House Physician, Vice Admiral Burkley, personally wrote Wright a letter of thanks on behalf of the United States President.[14][15][16]
In 1967 Wright enrolled at Howard University in Washington, D.C., where he earned a bachelor’s degree in 1968 and a master’s degree in English in 1969. He also earned a master’s degree from the University of Chicago Divinity School.[12] Wright holds a Doctor of Ministry degree (1990) from the United Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio, where he studied under Samuel DeWitt Proctor, a mentor to Martin Luther King, Jr.[17]
That is the problem, most Americans don’t believe that there are people this crazy and that there are a lot of them. And we feel the 1st amendment will protect us.
But with Bachmann and now Perry, we do need to put an end to allowing all this religion in politics in the first place.
Instead I bet we will see a series of “oh look at this bright shiny object right here!” attempts at distraction from Palin, or even advance attempts to discredit Joe, authors, bloggers, elitists, New York publishing houses, books, the printed word, ideas, thought,…
Joe, I’ve read every blog and anti-Palin comment since McCain first uttered her name. Are you saying the book will contain information that hasn’t been revealed to date? I can hardly wait to get my hands on it.
I just read on Mali Litman’s blog that Undefeated made $28,000 the first week end from all 10 theaters.
A good find by Joe. But if Joe doesn’t have anything related to illegality or blatant immorality – the book won’t make a dent. I assume it’ll still be a great read. But he’ll be preaching to the choir.
People who hate Palin will hate her more. People who love her within the “Christian” sect she attracts won’t be taken back by this at all. The story of the Bible is a story of good vs. evil. God/Jesus vs. Satan/demons. I’m a Christian. I believe there is an ongoing spiritual battle between good and evil. What Joe describes as Palin’s beliefs about spiritual warfare – I personally think is nuts for someone to believe that. But I have kind, devoted, gracious Christian friends who do constantly believe in demon-warfare related things (though not as extreme as what Joe describes). And although I tend to dismiss what they “see,” I also remind myself to not judge them too quickly.
Obama had a crazy pastor – and he was able to distance himself. McCain was tied to the weird pastor in San Antonio. What about Mormons who get names of those who died in the Holocaust, so they can pray for them to go to Mormon heaven? Mormons also believe that Jesus came to present day Guatemala and hung out with the Native Americans. We have 2 legit presidential candidates who are full-fledged Mormons.
Because I take my faith in Christ seriously, what Palin is all about makes my blood boil. She and her family seem to know not a single thing about grace (the radical need to receive it, and offer it to others) – which is the absolute bedrock of Jesus’ teachings. And of course, there is Palin’s non-stop lies, selfishness, pride, etc., etc. etc. But like Palin herself, her “Christian” base doesn’t know much about Jesus or the Bible. So they will be completely unaffected.
and all the people you have just named and otherwise identified
Not to mention The Selling of the President 1968. I graduated in Political Science from UCSB in 1968. This book immediately became a classic text in all Political Science departments around the country and is still all too relevant today.
Joe you mentioned help after September 20, we are all here for you for sure.
This is the first time I’ve commented on your blog Joe. I haven’t bought a hard copy in years, but I will be buying your book. You seek the truth – so do we. Many thanks.
I must say Bristol you spelling has improved. Folks say I’m naive to think you may attend college someday but my money is on you to differentiate from your family of origin and then you and your children can thrive.
Joe, I’ve been saying the reason I think Quitler isn’t “deciding” about a presidential bid right now is precisely because she’s waiting for your book to come out (she said she’d make a decision around Aug-Sept).
I hope your revelations blow her to kingdom come (to coin a phrase) and the US will be rid of bad rubbish.
“O4P” is just another arm of her propaganda machine. I think many Arizonans have an entirely different opinion and wish the trash would be taken out of the neighborhood.
I think she felt compelled to tell the wite-out story because she was telling a lie and is compensating for it. I know a person with a personality disorder and he tells lies all the time, even when there is no need for it. What always trips him up is that he over tells the story. He makes up stuff surrounding the lie to make it more convincing and it is those made up details that come undone and reveal the lie, when he would have gotten away with the lie alone. I think that if you look at many of the deceptions of Sarah Palin, you will find that kind of behavior, where she adds details to make the story more convincing and it all becomes quite plainly a lie…to sane people, at least. That is what makes the whole story of her “pregnancy and birth” of Trig so suspect. Too many unnecessary details woven into the story.
Looking forward to the read. Fervently wishing (hoping, praying, you name it) that SOMETHING in this book causes at least SOME of the Palinbots to smack themselves in the forehead and say “WTF”. Sadly (and I do mean sadly) I don’t see that happening. Here in Alaska the vast majority of folks “get Palin” and are so done with her. Having said that there still exists a ‘bot element in AK who still get all frothed up over her. IMHO our country is headed down a slippery slope by continuing to worship the unworthy and as we know Palin is but one of them.
This is very exciting news. I have a nook and i will pre-order. Now regardless of what nasty liberal said above, im very disappointed you didnt make it to Phoenix last week. I hope there will be another reason for you to come out. This is a huge city you know and not everyone is a Sarah fan. A utube video doent represent the millions of people who live in the area! I cant wait for your book !! Demon cities? Interesting! I have tried telling people about the Dominionists but they don’t seem to take the threat very seriously when they should. These people are frightening as all extremists are. My understanding is that all the GOP presidential candidates are Dominionists except for Paul, Romney and Huntsman. I’m not sure about Cain actually. Even if Sarah doesnt run, it is critical that Americans start understanding how out there these supposed Christians are. I wonder if all of her bots even understand her religion and how extreme it is.
Im still hoping you make it out here in the fall.
Joe, this nation will owe you a lot for showing the underbelly of these religious dangerous, delusional wackos!
Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann will have to run for cover also, too! It will be interesting to see how the Christian community reacts, talk about damning “associations and pals”.
Thank you!
PS……please stay safe! This is bigger than just Sarah Palin.
I read both Dunn & Bailey’s Books. Dunn’s was much better, but he is a better writer. He got into more specifics than Bailey did.
IMO, Bailey drank the Kool-Aid and didn’t even think about what was going on around him, with himself involved, until it got to the point his conscience hit him. I kind of feel badly for him. I think his book was more of a “looking for Atonement” thing.
But what startled me is that two completely different personalities, Dunn & Bailey, Dunn, who is Progressive and Bailey who admits to being a Fux News neo-con, both came to the very same conclusions about $arah. That alone makes Bailey’s book worth reading.
In the meantime, I cannot WAIT for your Book, Joe!! I’ll never forget Fatal Vision. I had read that when it was first released. I must have read it more than a handful of times over the years.
I hope your Publisher will change their mind about going on a Book Tour!! I would love to shake your hand and give you a big THANK YOU!!! and a HUG!!
Take good care- watch out for the bots because they are going nuts!
I blog about $arah on FB and I’ve been hacked once already. Also, my fellow FB Friends who post about $arah all the time have been hacked as well. It seems when ever the Snowbilly Snooki is having any problems or is working the bots up for some reason, they attack our Pages relentlessly. I hope you have very good security for yourself and Family!!
The bots scare the dickens out of me!!
Making everyone wait until the official release date makes a lot of sense. If anyone has a chance to preview it and talk about it, that also gives Sarah & her minions spin time before it hits bookstores.
This way she’ll be blindsided. Perfect.
Yours is the most idiotic comment I have ever read on this blog. You can’t even pull off a legitimate distraction.
When will sarah learn you get what you pay for?
There will undoubtedly be more noisy accusations about perverts wanting to rape her daughters, fingers pointed at stalkers, and histrionic rants about the lamestream media, freedom, big guvmint, haters, bloggers, etc. In between each of these she will point at squirrels.
I can hardly wait!
The clues were there in 2008 when she was chosen, easy enough to find on you tube. Trouble is no one wanted to touch it with a ten foot pole, no one had the courage until Joe. It’s just been unspoken on a national level, until now. It will be amazing!
This is very true….narcissists tend to do this a lot, especially since they think they’re so clever, you’ll never figure out their complicated tangle of lies. The narcissist in our family lies about EVERYTHING, even when there is no reason to lie…..which way he drove home from work, what he had for lunch, where he is going on a vacation, etc. It is so bizarre. I think it stems from always needing to outdo everyone around them, and embellish their own activities and accomplishments.
If she does, I predict her “campaign” will be an instant disaster.
Ooo, look at the shiny thing!
DON’T DO LENO!! Anyone who is clueless enough to have The Chin™ on his show (as if she were a real “author”!) isn’t worth 30 seconds of your time. You *ARE* a real author. Go on morning shows, do Letterman or whatever, but stay away from leno. I suspect as a Republican and Palin shill he would try to make you look bad if he got a chance anyway.
If he can’t book you, Leno will probably book Sarah—-and of course she would make an even bigger fool of herself whining on national television after the book is released. Excellent publicity, but you don’t have to sit in the hot seat.
Exactly, Lilybart. Somewhere out there is an invoice for an abortion that need to be explained “just in case.”
I agree with the publishers decision too. Can’t wait for the big surprise!
I have pre-ordered your book (Kindle and hard copy). But, I have to admit that because I have been somewhat disappointed by the books by Dunn and Bailey and have been generally feeling that Palin is daily but (unfortunately for most of the US) slowly losing credibility, I haven’t been expecting much from your book other than a very well written read. However, today’s post changes all of that.
I have always suspected that the reason the McCain campaign did not “go after” Rev. Wright was because of what the Obama campaign could uncover about Palin’s “church” and that it could possibly shed greater light on the larger Dominionist agenda.
I find it appalling that “C Street,” “The Family,” and now Rick Perry’s August 6 round up of lunatic, so-called Christian clergy for a day of prayer and fasting receive so little scrutiny from the press in this country. Whatever your book does to further diminish Palin is great, but if your book can bring the Dominionist movement into the national consciousness, you will be providing a great service to the country.
I think everyone here should buy 5 copies of your book and give them out as holiday gifts. (Actually, make it 6 copies. I don’t want to be accused of plagiarism by the palinbots.)
Thanks, Joe, for what you are doing! Maybe all this Murdoch exposure will create a good context/backdrop for your book. I salute you for taking on the religious fundies and I hope we can have a serious national debate about what is really going on.
Hoping that I don’t sound like a nit-picker. The only disappointing thing I found in Dunn’s book about $arah was the rash of typographical errors. Things like “wrung” for the rung of a ladder. Please, please, let somebody who is more careful do the proof-reading on your galleys? Thank you.
And I hope you had a roomful of congenial people with you to enjoy the elegance of the Women’s World Cup game yesterday.
Holy shit, Joe. I just may have to order another sangria. I can’t wait until September…….
I suspect Palin doesn’t actually have any religious beliefs so much as she fakes having them. I’m sure she associates with these faux Christians – I call them fake because they would have been the first to nail Jesus to the Cross if they’d lived back then – but she doesn’t actually go to church herself best I can tell. I just think she’s a huckster more than anything else.
That being said, these scary people who have hijacked and perverted Christianity definitely need to be exposed, because they are dangerously infiltrating just about every popular institution in America. And what they have in store for this country is not pretty. Think of Stalin-level purges.
Brilliant move. Now that the book is embargoed, more people will be chomping at the bit to want to read it and speak to you. There’ll be news coverage days beforehand (free advertising, of course lol) and then more interviews. I’d really hope Jon Stewart, Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow will wish to interview you. 🙂
Rev. Wright is not crazy. Please don’t buy into right-wing talking points, esp. since you, by your own admission, have so many right-leaning Christian friends who believe in demons. You’re probably faced with right-wing talking points on a daily basis in conversation. Rev. Wright served our country as a Marine, is decorated, and was at LBJ’s side during an operation. I highly recommend you look at Bill Moyer’s interview with Rev. Wright. As a Christian, I donated $50 to Rev. Wright’s former church as soon as the smear against him started. I’m glad I did.
Plus Google Books lets you read for free – often many books that cannot be bought for an e-reader because they were published long before digital – so you are reading the scanned page.
Kobo is another e-reader a friend of mine is enjoying, so I bought one for my daughter; I have kindle.
Good point – that the palinbots will not be able to gin up a counterattack.
Get ready for more personal lambasts.
The good part about the embargo is it makes summer just that much longer – you know how hard it is to wait for something exciting – it just makes time slow down.
They didn’t “go after” Rev. Wright because he was a decorated Marine, trusted by LBJ, and highly educated. I urge everyone on here to watch Bill Moyers’ video-essay on Rev. Wright, which came out all of the Rev. Wright stuff occurred. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnMK1d9xE0
Moyers quotes: “Beware the terrible simplifiers.” Indeed.
I am a Native American. I can relate to the socio-historical contextualization presented by Moyers, to help “white” people locate Wright’s positions and his anger in our country’s bloody past (and present). What Moyers says is true: White preachers say far worse and with far less cause every day in the country.
Brent: Watch this video essay by Bill Moyers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnMK1d9xE0
Then report back to us, OK? Thanks.
Joe, I’m buying your book. Glad it’s under the lock and key for now. Great strategy.
Joe,
I am sure these dominionists make up the crux of the radical anti-abortionists. People that see “demons” will no doubt see the horns coming from your head for deconstructing their “Joan of Arc” please be careful and make sure you are adequately protected as you sojourn.
Blessing to you (no pun intended)…..Just preordered my copy….
Yes and I almost hope that some religious nut will be the GOP nominee, so their crushing defeat will crush the crazy and send it back under the rocks it came from when Miss Wasilla cranked up the racism and dog whistles to dominionists.
Joe will be my Hero if he brings her down.
And still a hero for trying.
Fantastic!! I can hardly wait.
Just for a touch of ironic justice, near the beginning of her movie is a quote from the bible about good trees producing good fruit, and bad trees bad.. this was meant to silence the critics, since saying bad things about her = being a bad person. Classic Palin.
Thanks for ALL that! Americans just can’t believe these religious nuts are serious or that the Constitution keeps us safe from them.
Lidia, I believe his comment was more focused on the fact it’s photography, not that it’s on-line; it seems he appreciates the evidence, but it still boils down to the individual’s eyeball, as it were… leaving us still in the realm of speculation, which realm we hope his book supersedes.
VERY good decision from your publisher. Maybe we will see her scrambling to cover what she THINKS is in your book, and it will bring a few new things to light.
I have some severe visual problems that have kept me from reading printed books for years. I have downloaded the kindle for pc and await the release of The Rogue. I WILL read it.
Stay safe. The whistle blower from the Murdoch scandal has been found conveniently dead.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/18/995862/-News-Corp-phone-hacking-whistleblower-found-dead?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos%29
” I’m waiting with a glass of wine in one hand and your book in the other ready to shout YAHOO “.!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm… and it’s true those of his sentiments which get the airplay and are oh-so-reviled are actually common to many Vietnam-era veterans, of quite various political stripe. ,i>Consider the context, I so often say.
Friend, I’m surprised you think I don’t know that, and well. Are you discounting the value of fervor?
Jay was compelled to have Bristol on his show due to their shared love of gigantic chins. Jay’s is God-given, but he had to give a tip of the hat to Bristol for willingly having a huge chin grafted onto her face. Chins gotta stick together.
OK. If ever there was a reason to buy this book, this is it… 🙂
Just, PLEASE make sure that you, your wife, and all the others who about this ARE SAFE!!!
(Related in that way: One of the whistle blowers has been found dead:http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare)
OPff to go read the comments now. 😉
I couldn’t help but notice the same thing, grammy97. Another error that galled me was stating that Juneau was built on mine “tillings”. Anybody familiar with old-west mines (me), or others elsewhere, knows that the correct word is “tailings”. Otherwise, an excellent book by Dunn.
You forgot to mention Ailes, Murdoch, Koch brothers, etc…
This is at least the second time that I have posted the same thing as you did, just because i did not read the comments beforehand. Sorry again about this duplicity!
Well, at least I can say we seem to be on the same wavelength here…
I made a mistake on my math on the length of time between the March 14th ADN photo and the April 13th Gusty photo.
Mar.14 till April 13= 31 days
There is no way the uterus and the skin on your stomach could expand that much in 31 days. No way .
I was counting from the day she announced her pregnancy Mar 5th till the day of delivery on April 18th which was 45 days.
NL, I don’t know what we are supposed to rely on if NOT our “eyeballs” (or eardrums, tastebuds, olfactory glands or what-have-you…). Our senses are the only tools we have to navigate the universe. Take them all away, and then what?
Are we supposed to wait around for a computer to tell us what to think?
Sarah is shown to have a perfectly flat belly when she claimed to be 7 months pregnant.
Hence she is lying, and did not give birth to Trig.
What other evidence is necessary?
What evidence *would* you believe, if not this?
What makes this so complicated? Are people so detached from the reality of their own senses that they choose to concede their own observations… negating them in order not to offend?!?! This development in itself is more alarming than the Sarah hoax itself!
Crystalwolf, it’s very telling that she has NEVER in the last 3+ years used that excuse… of having to attend to Tri-G. She couldn’t even be bothered to hang around when he had some sort of undefined surgery.
Make no mistake, friend… I’m convinced. Your work in particular was–is–quite persuasive. As to your point about the more disturbing of developments, I couldn’t agree more.
Mmmm, I’m thinking this is Breitbart, or the Other McCain, or Dan Riehl… one of that racist thug posse.
yeh, right… the prayer only goes so far, doncha know…
Lisabeth, yes, when you think about it, the Dominionists’ ability to take over the Republican field has been prodigious!
And now we have FOX news attacking Romney as “not a Christian”*:
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/fox-news-host-romney-obviously-not-christian
The whole lot of them are maniacally doubling-down on the Über-Xtian theme!!
*I wouldn’t give you 2 cents for Romney as a human being, but he *did” say that he thought the Jesus Christ character was the son of god and the savior of the world, which seems Christian enough to me.
Reality Check, I concur. The air is getting very thick with hypocrisy and greed. My own husband suggests that we should set up a “monastery” so we can get tax breaks and grift off of the idiots. He’s only half-joking.
My sister, whom I previously judged intelligent, has fallen in with one of these “church plants”. Basically an ex(?) drug addict who set up a Rapture-Ready™® church so that his parishioners could pay his health insurance and give him a livelihood. At the same time that there are 10 Christian churches within walking distance of her house, she continuously whines to me that “Christians are being persecuted’!!! THAT is some Cognitive Dissonance!
There is a fascinating psychological study to be done on these cults, and narcissism and sociopathy, I think.
These people are so convinced that they are the center of the universe, it’s painful to contemplate.
Maybe that’s the way they pronounce it up there in “rill ‘murika”. 😉
Don’t feel like the lone stranger Lidia17, I recently learned that my younger sister has put a huge Palin for President sign on her facebook page. My daughter told me; I don’t deal in facebook.
I saw my sister at the lake yesterday, and out of respect for my 83 year old mom, I did not say a word about Sarah Palin. My mother told me that she told my younger sister back in February that she will not talk politics with her anymore (Mom is pretty much a liberal and she has nothing good to say about Sarah Palin).
FEDUP, (kindly)… I think you mean duplication! “Duplicity” is being two-faced: a liar and a betrayer like Mrs. P. Duplicitous.
Joe, you little stinker. That was a term of endearment my Italian Grandmother would call us when we were being cheeky. You are such a tease, but I admit, it is working on me. I am so sad that I will be out of the country in Asia for the month during the time the book is released and you do your interviews. I hope there is some way you can post the videos of your interviews here on your blog. Can’t wait.
NL, fine, but notice that Joe won’t concede that the photo evidence constitutes even ONE “leg to stand on”. (!!!)
Oh Phyllis, Shoo now! — Go ‘way with that unseemly belly talk.
You know that wimmin don’t know nothin’ ’bout birthin’ no babies!
/saracasm
The menfolk… theys gonna tell us.
Any book Mr. McGinniss writes is well worth the wait.
Here’s something I wonder, quite seriously: if the “evidence” is so overwhelming, how come only Andrew Sullivan in mainstream media, continues to express doubts? (I do, too, as you know, but I don’t consider myself mainstream.) How come not ONE woman in MSM has done anything but deride the very notion that Sarah did not give birth to Trig?
It’s not that Sarah is so all-powerful. In fact, she’s like a rabid momma polar bear on a shrinking ice floe far out at sea. But all this “evidence” and not a single woman journalist from a major media organization is even moved to inquire?
How come?
–Joe
Thanks, Lydia! Yes, you are correct, of course. Sorry about that (English is not my first language, but that is no excuse for these kinds of errors! 😉 )
Joe, PLEASE. Do you think women actually have *power* in the media world? Only as lackeys and suckups to men, for the most part, like Ms. Recently-Arrested-Thrown-Under-The-Bus Brooks.
DO YOU THINK THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT SIDE THEIR BREAD IS BUTTERED ON?
Women do NOT have power in the larger world.
Men do NOT understand the depth and breadth of this gender gap, generally, even if, superficially, they would like to.
Look at Oprah… look at the “View” ladies… anyone who can “read” people can tell that they think SP is full of shit… BUT THEY GO ALONG TO GET ALONG. Even Oprah, who can buy and sell Palin 100x over, will not put Sarah down. Because Oprah and Walters are too attached to their money stream and greed, OR there will obviously be some sort of hell to pay.
Have you not been reading the news out of the UK?
That I have to explain this to YOU is—like the reluctance to believe one’s own physical senses—ALARMING!!!!
What the hell do you think your friend Ailes was up to in his secret surveillance bunker, for God’s sake??
Sarah Palin AND her pregnancy have been a right-wing nutjob creation from the get-go.
Anyone who looked into this too closely was obviously going to RISK THEIR JOB and possibly RISK THEIR LIVES. Sarah’s minions have shot pets and torched houses, and who knows what happened to her poor ex-paramour, the father of Track. the seasoned pilot with “water in his gas tank”. Probably women are less likely to opt to run counter to that sort of interference, and in fact Audrey shut down her blog rather than face Palin’s flying monkeys.
Joe, others have tackled that issue, and have come up with a couple possible scenarios:
A) If they would comment on that issue, they (the newspapers) would lose the cash cow they have right now, because any mention of $arah brings $$$.
If she were to be brought down, the $$$-flow would stop.
B) Pretty much all the ‘MSM’ is bought and paid for by Murdoch et al – and as such see point A). (By now, I tend to agree with the moniker of LSM, but not for the same reasons $arah is using it…)
I believe Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow have addressed the issue, but I am not sure (no more TV in our house. 😉 )
It’s not SARAH who is so powerful. It’s quite obvious that she has very potent forces behind her, and THAT’s who the men and women of the MSM are afraid of, clearly.
I’m trying to figure out if you are just playing dumb at this point, because you do seem to have explored the backing of the Palin phenomenon. So which is it, according to you and your book? Is she a crazy triviality that Couric and Walters and Gretchen Carlson should forcefully kick to the curb if they disbelieve her, OR is there something bigger behind Palin, which can orchestrate not only Sarah but others as well?
If there is something bigger behind Palin, I have no problem in assuming that the “something bigger” keeps women AND men in the so-called “press” from pointing out the obvious to the 99% of the people who, after seriously entertaining the actual scenario, come to the conclusion that SARAH DID NOT GIVE BIRTH TO TRI-G.
You’re a betting man, apparently. I would bet my paid-off house on it.
What would you bet? What odds do you give?
My odds are 999,999:1
No, 999,999,999,999,999:1
Now take away the one!
Joe. THIS is the role women are supposed to play on TV: the role of IDIOTS.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-8-2009/gretchen-carlson-dumbs-down
I’m sure your wife is an intelligent lady; ask her if she thinks women can act freely in the media world.
You think this is just FOX, but CNN had to put subtitles under Christiane Amanpour, establishing her “foreign-ness”, even as she was speaking the English language (having dared to employ the word “perspicacious”).
The MSM DOESN’T WANT women who know what “czar” or “perspicacious” or “ignoramus” means, giving women a teensy disadvantage, wouldn’t you say? When our vocabulary is limited to a few hundred words, like that of chimps?
As to why Andrew Sullivan has more latitude than others, that—too—is obvious. As a Gay Conservative Catholic, what does he have to lose? He’s already “the iconoclast”, asking many [but not too many] uncomfortable questions. He doesn’t have a stake in the true mainstream media, so he can go out on what seems to be a limb. Note that—anyhow—he has come to be considered a crazy loon for his Trignostic stance; it hasn’t been without cost.
That’s true. $arah Palin’s minions attacked me at work because I dared say something true about one of her cronies whom she had appointed a director of a state department. The person did not have education or credentials; just like Sarah.
And finally, because I am “un fiume in pieno” right now… for how angry I am.
What kind of weird logic is that? “Sarah Palin must have been pregnant because highly-paid female talking heads did not call her out on it???”
I know there’s a whole panoply of rhetorical figures and logical fallacies. What is this one? The “appeal to authority”? What about the authority of women who don’t have a multi-million-dollar stake in the game, like Audrey and so many others, including most of your female fans and commenters here.
What does your wife think, upon viewing the March photo? Would you take her word for it over that of Barbara Walters? If not, why not?
Please allow me to add my two cents worth on this question (unheated) (unheeded?) Why is the story unreported or disbelieved?
What folk seem to miss, for one reason or another, is how thoroughly news of and affairs in Alaska (and I’m sure by the same token, Hawaii) slip under the radar in the Lower 48, and this is a constant. Part of it is the geographic remove of course, but perhaps the time differential is more important; the Eastern Seaboard is in bed while Alaskans are going about their business. So much in the way of day-to-day affairs which are commonly reported state-to-state across the 48 (think Casey Anthony) simply don’t exist if the event occurs in Alaska. Alaskans aren’t fully cognizant of this because the reverse doesn’t hold. America’s whole day (and night!) is on the evening news there. Heck, half the local weather report is a recap of what’s going on in the Lower 48! And further, Americans just don’t generally realize how deeply unusual Alaska is simply by virtue of its size being the equivalent of Texas plus the entire Eastern Seaboard while its population approximates that of the state Rhode Island (which in area is about equal to Fairbanks North Star Borough, one of Alaska’s smallest–that’s the division, not counties not parishes).
So here’s the explanation of the mystery, as I see it: this incredible hoax, a state’s governor faking a pregnancy (!) is simply and completely inconceivable in any of the lower 48 states. Such a thing could not–would not–happen here! Too many people, too many eyes, even in the Mountain States of the West, for such a deal to even get past the planning stage, let alone reach fruition. For this travesty of credulity to take place in any of the States is literally IMPOSSIBLE… with the exception of one only. Alaska.
carollt, my mom is not really liberal, but tries to take a diplomatic, non-judgmental tone. She says, “your sister was always very different from you”. I never knew how much so!
May I suggest my explanation also clarifies why Joe alone is even alive to the notion while no other Outside journalist is? He’d been there before.
I don’t know how I feel about the decision. Initially, it seems right because Palin is expert at the soundbite war, and she has the entire msm backing her up. If snippets are released, she’ll just counter with snippets of halftruths and lies. So in that respect it’s best to present the whole book. However, if she announces she’s running before your publish date, she’ll get all the attention. At that point, you’ll need to explode a bomb in that book to get anyone to notice.
I don’t think she’s running, I’m just saying. And I also disagree with people who assume that evidence has been withheld and witnesses have bit their lips because Sarah is not a legitimate candidate or threat and so they’re giving her a pass. The assumption is once she runs, it all comes out. I think the opposite. Once she runs, the msm will protect her and bury anything negative which would put a damper on the hype. That’s why I’d rather your book come out now instead of later.
Of course it is an excuse! I make up words in Italian all the time! There are lots of English words with Latin roots that they no longer recognize, to my dismay.
I should have kept a notebook of all the “perfectly good” words the Italians I know, along with Zingarelli, have nixed! To say nothing of the “false friends”: I still have a hard time with “illudere” (to delude) and “deludere” (to disappoint), for example. :-))
Joe, who does this remind you of?
WOLFF: One of the curious things about Rupert Murdoch is that when he gives an interview, he only gives it to news outlets he owns. And those are always very funny interviews because he is essentially telling his reporters what questions to ask and how to cast his response.
KURTZ: Wait. How do you know he’s telling his reporters what questions to ask? That’s not entirely fair. The Wall Street Journal is a pretty good newspaper.
WOLFF: Because I’ve sat with him in the… when he’s done this. I know who calls before. It is absolutely the Murdoch playbook, you call ahead, you set it up, you tell them what questions to ask; in the middle of the interview, he often does this.
KURTZ: So what does all this get him when he does an interview with an outlet he controls?
Could it beeeeee? SATAN?
err.. I mean SARAH PALIN??
In this you are absolutely right of course, Lidia17… Quitler herself is powerless. She is but a pawn, a stalking horse, a useful idiot in the endgame of the actual power possessors.
The ground is being prepared for a Perry/Chaney Administration which is intended to be permanent. An endless loop of the I Love Lizzy Show, as it were. Ricky & Lizzy 2012! Get your bumper sticker now, or suffer the consequences of your stiff-necked disbelief for ever after.
The story of Sarah Palin is not the story of a scrappy-yet-insane woman with an obscure Christian cult behind her.
It’s the story of a debilitatingly insane woman with the full force of the most powerful secular media enterprise in history behind her.
It’s the story of a corrupt and treasonous media, a purulent metastasis on the body politic, which is intentionally sapping the strength and will of the citizenry to feed its corporate advertisers and masters.
People throw up their hands and say “who can figure it out!?” but that is WHAT “THEY” WANT (“they being people like Roger Ailes): for things to be so confusing that sane people recoil even from the exercise of confronting the full-bore hourly offenses to sanity and to the intellect.
Like John Cole of Balloon Juice said, it’s like asking someone out for dinner, and you suggest Italian food, while they suggest a meal of tire rims and anthrax. That is today’s right wing, and Sarah, Bachmann, Gingrich, Walker, Haley, etc. are the anthrax poster children. Served up on a silver platter by Karl Rove and Roger Ailes.
No. Alaskans are fairly educated and can spell and understand context. Someone didn’t do a THOROUGH spell check. For the record, while the rebellious un(der)educated palin NEVER got over her little elitist junior high school pronunciations of leave -een off her g’s on ing word endings and mispronouncing other words, she never “rilly” used that hillbilly fakey-screechy persona until AFTER she got a taste of the limelight IN THE LOWER 48 in 2008 and then used that utterly phony hick personality in those pockets of mind dulling density of that “rill amurka” that bathed her in their same-ness and now won’t let her out of their (and her own) dirty tub. Oh yeah. She’s not the queen of anything but the biggest carnival yakker OPPORTUNIST we will see (have seen) in this country. For a demonstration of this adopted phoniness, go to Youtube and watch and listen to her talk while she was still just a basic unknown to people Outside. See if you can spot the transition of the fake persona she slammed on “rill amurka”. Opportunist. FAKE. Phony. Really, secretly in her dark dark cunning heart, wanting to be an “elite”. Oh and if you are a fake and a phony that basically equates to being A LIAR. Now there and only there, one could use the term “queen” for little ole sayraa paay-lenn.
FEDUP, it’s way too late for them to say anything at this point. If they had unmasked Sarah within the first couple of months, that’d have been ok. but how are they supposed to “break” the news now: that Sarah is a lying grifter, and not one line of her biography or political resume has any truth to it. After 3+ years of covering up for her. Not gonna happen. Needs to happen, but not gonna happen. I fear that Joe’s book will not just fall but get pushed and kicked into the mainstream memory hole just like Dunn’s did.
Mr. McGinniss : That title gave me an immediate jolt and an “ohhhh noooo” and then, a BIG relief after the first sentence. Then the last sentence gave me the BEST feeling of anything you’ve posted so far. A feeling of everything is going to be OK. You really know how to grab a crowd! I don’t think your publisher’s and all your support people could have come up with a better plan than what you’ve told us here today. I want to jump up in the air and throw a ton of confetti! Having said that, I think we are in for one good show to come and I mean EVERYTHING that will be a fall-out from your investigation and presentation to the whole world. Its so deliciously exciting, because we know palin is really GOING DOWN. She, of course, doesn’t have the mental or psychological capacity to process, with her phony, fanatically religious cobwebbed mind, that these revelations will not put her sold out phony “plow-through” beliefs and front and center claw-you-to-death ambitions, away from ALL OR ANY high political office. I do believe she has “men of power” using her (and she using them) but all their seams are popping out and dragging all over the place. The state of journalism and media down the toilet in this country. I would hope that people would be waking from their deadly sleep and realize how perilous their corporate america has lulled them all (to the many who can’t see and to those of us who want to see ALL the picture) and then ACT, THINK and CHANGE what so many really need and desperately want to have changed in this country. I know my Native american blood and experience is never seen as anything but guilt baiting or trivial or even whining (which shows the height and depth of ignorance to me when this is stated back at me), but our people have been warning and some of us trying to enlighten the white american mindset in so many ways of changing themselves, that we now watch, with no surprise, at the machinations that are bringing this country to ruin. I noticed in one of the above comments a very lengthy list of the involvement of the religious republican/politician’s and how these unbalanced people are trying to take over this country. That was a good post. If those crazies get what they are slobbering for, this country will be worse than the dark ages of their own ancestry. If they were only satisfied to rule a few of their own it wouldn’t matter, but ruling over everyone here? This calls for some fighting back – and waking the hell up from the slumber the powers that be have dusted everyone with – and done so cleverly and willingly in collusion with mass media. palin is just the tip of their (and her) ugly iceberg. This pisses me off more than I can say. I am not afraid of the WORD “conspiracy” because I know quite well that people from low to high “conspire” on all things at all times anywhere and anytime (past and present) and that “conspiring” can be innocuous as planning a birthday party for a loved one to conspiring to commit a murder or murder’s and everything in between. It concerns me only when people who hold the highest jobs in the land and the people who control our lives, get together in non-transparency (secret) and discuss “their Policies” for everyone else – that is where I get concerned. You know, for example, “The Brain Room” at Fox news headquarters. Just ONE example. Among so many I am sure it would make all heads that are awake spin.
I believe there are ugly and bad things being done to everyone – on so many levels. WITHOUT transparency. Planned, plotted, schemed. And I think they are being done with impunity and criminally and being done by those who want ALL the power and ALL the money. Yes, grandiose schemes. Because “they” can. Ego’s out of control and beyond. That Rupert Murdoch thing is only the tip of mostly immersed iceberg. The Dominionist’s are creepy and dangerous and should be seen for exactly what they are. They are dangerously mentally off kilter. “…The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it?…” – Jeremiah 17:9 and for what I know of the bible, while not being classified as a baptized christian, these so called Dominionist’s really have a skewered interpretation of that Old Testament history. Fakes. If they grasped the meaning of the New Testament, they would see that THEY are indicted for all that they say and do. Since both Old and New are integrated into ONE WHOLE BOOK, the entirety of that book must be accepted. They can’t have their cake and eat it too. I’m not proselytizing but stating what seems obvious. I didn’t want to get into a “religious” discussion, but sooner or later everyone might have to with all that is coming to light about the religious fanaticism sarah palin and the Dominionist crowd and all the others we know labeled as “evangelical”, who are trying/attempting to gain as their power madness for ruling this country on every level they crazedly see fit. I couldn’t let that one link about the Native American’s go by without a comment either. Naturally. Its so incredibly incredibly an example of how they just “make stuff up”. I guess out and out Genocide is too big a word for them to have ANY clue about and then, it also indicts their ancestry. Dominionists: a dark and sinister bunch of people who barely can stand the thought that they were never acceptable in behaviors by ANY standards. I would intuit that many of their so called leaders came out of licentious, smoldering with behaviors that would make any healthy sane person cringe and puke to know what their TRUE selves were. I intuit this from observable behavior, actions, and a little knowledge of how human’s behave. That’s putting it really short, but that intuit part is really deep. We had a DNA that did not have t.v., newspapers, gadgets or any modern technology. We watched everything. Just everything. And in quiet. Peacefully (before caucasion) and without interruption. Patiently. I think you get my point. For 500 years plus. We’re still watching, observing and intuiting. Those Dominionists need to go to Youtube and watch all John Trudell’s video’s. Especially the one about our people and drinking. A pipedream for sure. They don’t live TRUTH nor by that historical bible that in truth, indicts them to hell.
I don’t feel quite as bad about my long post this time because Serena1313 did a longer one I think (hope) and she gave more than just an opinion. I so wait with great up beatedness with what you posted today Mr. McG. I love having great things to look forward to. Just love it. I do agree with those who said you tease really well. Yeah. 😉
Amen, Lidia17, to all that you’ve said! I agree.
I’ve read “Into the Buzzsaw, the Myth of the Free Press,” “The Family,” “Crazy for God” and I’m starting to see the big picture.
Personally, I think Trig is a dead ringer for Sarah Palin, except for the DS nature of his features. What I want to know is why no MSM female reporter has done a story on Sarah Palin’s shockingly reckless behavior in the hours leading up to his birth. It was practically criminal in how much she endangered that baby.
Joe, THANK YOU (and your publishers) for scheduling your pub date a week before Rosh Hashanah! Fortunately, I’ll have all of The Rogue read in plenty of time to do my holiday cooking.
And I’ll have LOTS of time to plug your book when I see folks before services and during breaks…
The days between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur are known as the Ten Days of Teshuvah, a word that often is translated roughly as “repentance.” Its real meaning is a “turning-inward,” to assess the past year, and to ask forgiveness of those whom we have wronged.
I have an extremely hard time imagining $P devoting even ten seconds to teshuvah, much less asking for forgiveness. But hey, what do I know? I live in Demon City!
I read Floyd Orr’s Paradigm Shift. It presents the big picture,too, but with Babygate where it belongs, right in the middle of the whole stinking mess!
Lidia,
I emphatically agree with everything you have said and just wish that I were as articulate as you! I will certainly buy Joe’s book and am thrilled that he was able to uncover some real shockers, but was fervently hoping that he would be the one to bring Babygate to the mainstream. Maybe he did address the Trig birth narrative which defies all logic, the inconsistencies, the freaky photos, and lets the reader come to his own conclusions. I mean, he can lay it all out there without a direct accusation… or is this still wishful thinking? Or… Joe, does this embargo include misleading statements for the Palinbots – ie you really did address Babygate, but are keeping it under wraps until publication?
Another variable rarely mentioned is the weather during a typical Alaskan winter. Consider how easy it would be for someone to remain isolated from December 2007 to April 2008.
Haven’t juries convicted based on photographic/video evidence? What is a police lineup if nothing more than a recollection of the eye of the beholder?
Bretta, Kim Chatman (an Alaskan critic of Palin) says that she was shot at in her car, while her daughter was with her. Fortunately the bullet only passed through the window.
Kim Chatman, Air Force veteran with fifteen years of service, who Kathleen and I met last year in Ramstein, Germany, filed the successful ethics complaint against Sarah Palin’s first legal defense fund, the “Alaska Fund Trust”, which caused Sarah Palin huge embarrassment and cost her more than $300,000 in illegal fundraising. Kim Chatman saw Sarah Palin in person in Alaska in March 2008 at an event, after Sarah Palin had announced her pregnancy. Kim immediately realized that Sarah Palin wasn’t pregnant – and she isn’t silent about it. Is she guilty of misogyny as well? Or is she just guilty of saying what it is that she saw? Does that make her a troll?
By the way, one of the things that Kim Chatman has never mentioned so far in public is that she drove around in Alaska with a “NO2PALIN” license plate. At Easter, last year, somebody shot a bullet at the driver’s side sliding door window of the car while she was driving. Her children were in the car. There is a trooper report backing this information up. The trooper concerned was shocked that such an incident happened. Talk about guts. Kim Chatman knows what it means to take on Sarah Palin.
http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/04/uk-guardian-publishes-fact-free-article.html
MrsTarquinBiscuitbarrel – LaughedOutLoud at that last sentence! But seriously, I wonder which part of “spirit”, i.e., invisible with abilities to fly ANYWHERE, those dominionists just don’t get? OH, forgot. They don’t read the gospels where it states “…the WHOLE WORLD (my emphasis) is lying under the power of the wicked one…” Its the same made up shit of saying the Native american’s are “morally disqualified” from living in America and are cursed with alcoholism and poverty because they didn’t accept christianity. That in this so called “modern” and current time where information is right at one’s fingertips – that such an outrageous statement could be made and have followers nodding along like indifferent slugs, is simply beyond belief. It is enraging. Beliefs like this and america’s blatant racist underbelly, in spite of the ones who can not accept their real history of intolerance on just about all social and political levels, of the browner people of its society/nation – these current (and in my lifetime) realities of american religion, politics and life in general, just continue to solidify and confirm my belief that american society has at its core a problematic mental illness – clinically undiagnosed, but observable in its laws, chaos of beliefs, religious tyrannies (Jim Joneses, priest pedophilia, dominionist lunacies, hillbilly snakes in their church services, scientology created by one man of formerly dubious background (read “Daddy Was The Black Dahlia Killer” by Janice Knowlton), Mormon-ism that does not have a place for black people in “their’ heaven, evangelical religions that speak in “tongues” that no one but the pastor can interpret and comes out as gibberish and undecipherable to those not initiated into its creepy fantasies – a religion, btw, that does not take into account ancient biblical language and meaning, because if it did, would understand that “tongues” meant simply language and dialect of where those ancient peoples were from and NOT some secret language. How would those disciples be able to spread the gospel of Jesus if they were dealing with undecipherable gibberish? Those “tongues” were genuine decipherable languages of the cultures of the time. It seems that people here (and in all religions everywhere) have that large element of willful ignorance and juvenile emotionality that disallows for a wider understanding of the difference between “spiritual” and secular religiousness. THE main reason so many Native american’s never adopted “christianity”. That and the soul murdering fact that so many of all the chaotic religions that were ALLOWED and those that were FORCED upon the Natives, got busy destroying everything that made those Natives the beautiful and highly SPIRITUAL cultures they, in truth, were. The stories from the past and in current time make your blood boil for the atrocities of your basic white american so called made up religions. If you were to judge them by the standards of Jesus Christ, they would be the ones to come full bore as being truly demonic. That bible of theirs is very descriptive “…full of dead men’s bones…” Yes, all human cultures have that aspect of evil spirits. Call them what you will. The essence is all the same. They called us american Indians black and themselves white. Its the core of the american “way”. Been around since BEFORE the Salem Witch Trials. Resplendent now and growing ever stronger like black and poisonous mold in the form of religions like the “dominionists”. Crazy. Absolutely and positively crazy. I don’t know why people are so shocked nowadays about fanatics – religious and otherwise. They’ve been with you (therefore us) – en masse – all along. The supposed Al-Quaeda and Taliban have nothing on what is going on here. Pastor Muthee better get his witch doctor ass to REAL work. Those demons cover THE WORLD. He better go back and revisit sarah palin and those dominionists – THEY and she are DELIRIOUSLY INFESTED. Or should he start with himself first? Crazy. Undiagnosed crazy. Our work is to stay/remain sane living ANYWHERE we live – with all the spiritual forces of evil at work. (call them what you will. They are all the same entities) Here especially. “Chosen Demon cities”. Demons satisfyingly laughing right along with that one!
Uh… right.
This angle makes it a bit more clear why the general public not going to be able to show up at a bookstore at a given time and see the author. If personal safety is a criterion, then it is better NOT to have book signings.
I think what makes people hesitant in believing Sarah faked her pregnancy, Lidia, is the fact that Trig looks so much like her. He may well indeed come from another member of the Palin family but, for countless folk, Trig is definitely the offspring of Sarah. Frustrating as it might be, you could produce any number of photos of her not appearing to be pregnant at all and still you would not convince these believers that she did not give birth to him. Perhaps the only thing that would pursuade them would be a tearful confession from the deceiver, herself.
Question: Is the evidence supporting Sarah Palin’s ties to Dominionist theology any greater than the evidence supporting her absence of pregnancy in 2007-2008?
I have never seen her speak of 7 Mountains or tout any religious personality besides perhaps Franklin Graham. She has indicated, incorrectly, that our founders created America as a Christian nation. But she makes no public or open reference to the agenda we ascribe to Pastor Muthee or other leaders of this movement: RIck Joyner, Chuck Colson, or C. Peter Wagner for example. In fact, she doesn’t even seem to attend church services, and the closest she comes to speaking about religion is to thank “prayer warriers” during her addresses to religious groups and the occasional mention that God is on her side.
If it is possible to infer and deduce, based on available evidence, that Sarah is not only part of this movement but also a focal point for the movement’s intentions, then why is it not likewise possible to infer and deduce that she was -not- the woman who gave birth to the Ds child she claims as her proof of walking the pro-choice walk? Besides the obvious (photos of a non-pregnant Sarah during months when that would be impossible), there are hundreds of other observations that point in the same direction: e-mails, personal accounts, daily calendars, news reports, not to mention inconsistencies in her own statements. These all point to the falsehood of her unbelievable birth story.
She does hide things but this particular lie of Sarah’s is in plain sight. Why is it so hard to acknowledge it? Is it because one would suddenly be anointed with the mantle of a “conspiracy theorist?” In regards to Sarah Palin, is that still a valid fear? Who will finally break this code of silence?
In this climate it can little serve to advertise place and time specific in the event of a free access destination.
Really it falls into the category of signal discipline, if you ask me. Do not extend the adversary additional luxury in planning.
Has not Joe advertised the path to all the reportage which he testifies mostly convinces him and has thoroughly convinced me? (I’m someone who already saw through without considering the remarkable hoax beyond, and if I hadn’t lived in the Interior for ten years there is no way I wouldn’t remain skeptical even now friend… no way.) What more is it you’re asking? The evidence available is already nicely compiled and accessible. I for one fill people in but I’m not about to twist arms. Not yet, anyway… and not later.
Joe, I am totally curious to know who was the female writer who reviewed your book. $100 says it was Kitty Kelley, also a great biographer. Come on, Joe, give it up…!
Has anyone seen $arah or any of the ‘devout’ Pay-lin clan attend a church or worship service anywhere in the past few years? Another example of her ‘leading by example?’
Like so much else in her life, she uses Christianity as a prop when it suits her, just like her kids.
It’s only in the demon cities that women 43 days from delivering a 6+ lb. baby can effortlessly cross their legs at the knees AND lean forward as Palin did in the Newsweek interview video.
In the un-demon remainder of the world, women are confined by the laws of physics.
Joe, I just finished reading Fatal Vision for the first time…I was fascinated by your epilogue posted here on your website, and went right out to the library to get the book. I am just astonished at how much Jeff MacDonald and Sarah Palin have in common in terms of their personality disorders! Time and time again, as I read about another lie, as I read how he seemed to be his own worst enemy in his arrogance, and how he seemed to just create his own reality to fit with what he wanted to be true….I was reminded of similar documented lies and behavior from Sarah. I truly believe The Rogue is going to be explosive, after reading Fatal Vision, and after your announcement of the embargo. (BTW, I was wondering if you would do this, and was glad to hear it.)
But I have a question for you: After coming to the difficult but undeniable realization that this charming, intelligent, and gifted doctor DID in fact violently murder his own wife and children, do you think, with all you have learned about Sarah Palin and all you have learned and experienced firsthand about people with narcissistic personality disorder and their abilities to lie so convincingly about all things big and small, that Sarah Palin is CAPABLE of faking a pregnancy if the circumstances and benefits of such a hoax were favorable enough for her?
While I understand that you would like some hard evidence, the fact is that the vast majority of the available evidence (including photographs, film, and contradicting verbal statements from Sarah herself), weak though you may see it, indicates that she was NOT pregnant between March 4, 2008 and April 18, 2008, and did NOT give birth on April 18, 2008. Those few photos that seem to show a large belly (the “Gusty” photo; the Energy Conference stage photos) stand in such contrast to the many flat-bellied photos in the days and weeks just prior, that they actually make it seem more likely she faked the pregnancy (and wore a fake belly of some sort) than less likely. There is no evidence, strong or weak, that she was pregnant during those dates and gave birth. Even the so-called eyewitness account from a reporter recently who claimed to have seen her fabric-covered belly is, quite frankly, suspect considering the same reporter wrote that she “simply does not look pregnant” at the time of her pregnancy announcement, yet never felt compelled to publicly correct that impression until a few weeks ago.
Why do no female journalists pursue “babygate”? I would imagine they do not for mostly the same reasons male reporters do not: Palin is the cash cow right now, and until it becomes clear that exposing her will bring more money in than covering for her while writing fluff pieces or pretending she is a serious political contender, no reporter with a large audience (and probably very few, if any, that have a small audience) will bring any of her skeletons out of the closet. Back in 2008, the (mostly male-led) media were deathly afraid of “going there” into the world of vaginal fluids, labor pains, examining a sitting governor’s body up close….and the (much less powerful, generally speaking) female reporters who MAY have initially called BS on Palin’s story, even in spite of the announcement of her daughter’s pregnancy, were likely muzzled by their fearful and cautious superiors. I’m not sure any other motives or reasons are needed.
Thank you so much for this thoughtful comment. Any time an epilogue can get someone to read the book, I’m happy.
I can’t give too much away in advance of publication of THE ROGUE, but I will share this with you and with the many others who have strong opinions about Sarah truly being pregnant with Trig:
Toward the end of Chapter Nineteen, I write:
“I found a remarkable number of fair-minded ‘commonsense’ Alaskans who’ve known Sarah for many years who do not believe that Trig is her child.
“This surprised me. I would raise the question, expecting to be told that doubts about Trig were preposterous. Time and again, however, I found a deep and
abiding skepticism. Thus, it does not seem irrelevant to point out that in regard to Trig, as with so many other aspects of Sarah’s life, those who know her best
believe her least.
“It is perhaps the most blistering assessment of her character possible that many Wasillans who’d known Sarah from high school onward told me that even if she had not
faked the entire story of her pregnancy and Trig’s birth, it was something she was eminently capable of doing.”
I think that until September 20, I’ll leave it at that.
–Joe
I don’t understand how her extended family and some of her best friends believe Trig is hers. Also, how you (or they) describe her in high school isn’t quite on par with what I know and with whom I’ve spoken. People who went to school with her, not best friends but friends nonetheless, speak highly of her.
This paradox makes me question the integrity of many Alaskan sources.
I am waiting for your book with as much, if not more, anticipation that I waited for the final Harry Potter book, LOL! I hope you take that as a huge compliment, even if you weren’t one of the huge fans of the Harry Potter books!
Thanks!